What to call my belief? Your therioes about life/god?

[Danger Close]

A quote to you're quote.

"1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day."

From Genesis 1 in case you didn't realize. Verse 5 is from the first day of creation, he already called it day. Why would this day be different from any other day? Why would God lie about days? God speaks only truth so we must see that this was made in human days.
Your text speaks as a comparison, saying how truly great it is to be with the Lord, it's not referencing to creation.

EDIT: I believe Jonathan is talking about the gap theory. "Scientists" say that it isn't humanly possible to have the world created in 7 days so they theorize that he must have taken breaks or gaps.

You realize you just proved me correct, right?

Not really, could you please explain?

By me giving you the verse in Peter, talking about 'days to the lord are as of 1,000 years to him'. Then you giving Genesis' verses, it proves my point.

But, you really think that Earth was created in 7 legit days?

I mean, days can mean anything in the word of God, right? Or are your beliefs very fundamental?

 

[Reaperrr]

My belief:

I don't know what happened, the end.

 

[Zangrefia]

My parents are both Christian and believe in Jesus and God. They also want me to believe but I'm a seeing is believing type of person. There is no proof of existence of God or that there was a divine intervention anywhere in the world. I can't decide if I'm atheist or just a non-believer.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

By me giving you the verse in Peter, talking about 'days to the lord are as of 1,000 years to him'. Then you giving Genesis' verses, it proves my point.

But, you really think that Earth was created in 7 legit days?

I mean, days can mean anything in the word of God, right? Or are your beliefs very fundamental?

Got rid of our old quotes so we don't take up a page each .

The wording of the King James messes up the meaning a bit.
NIV/NASB(I just took these 2 since it's what I normally use): With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

The emphasis is on the LIKE. It's not saying a day IS a thousand years, but instead that it's LIKE a thousand years.
It's a similie. Example: He runs like a cheetah. He runs LIKE a cheetah, but isn't a cheetah.
So also it's like a thousand years but isn't a thousand years.

Sorry for not responding earlier btw, we had a block party.

 

[Danger Close]

By me giving you the verse in Peter, talking about 'days to the lord are as of 1,000 years to him'. Then you giving Genesis' verses, it proves my point.

But, you really think that Earth was created in 7 legit days?

I mean, days can mean anything in the word of God, right? Or are your beliefs very fundamental?

Got rid of our old quotes so we don't take up a page each .

The wording of the King James messes up the meaning a bit.
NIV/NASB(I just took these 2 since it's what I normally use): With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

The emphasis is on the LIKE. It's not saying a day IS a thousand years, but instead that it's LIKE a thousand years.
It's a similie. Example: He runs like a cheetah. He runs LIKE a cheetah, but isn't a cheetah.
So also it's like a thousand years but isn't a thousand years.

Sorry for not responding earlier btw, we had a block party.

Exactly 'like', I've already had at that. All I'm saying is it's not 7 days, as you portrayed it to be.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

By me giving you the verse in Peter, talking about 'days to the lord are as of 1,000 years to him'. Then you giving Genesis' verses, it proves my point.

But, you really think that Earth was created in 7 legit days?

I mean, days can mean anything in the word of God, right? Or are your beliefs very fundamental?

Got rid of our old quotes so we don't take up a page each .

The wording of the King James messes up the meaning a bit.
NIV/NASB(I just took these 2 since it's what I normally use): With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

The emphasis is on the LIKE. It's not saying a day IS a thousand years, but instead that it's LIKE a thousand years.
It's a similie. Example: He runs like a cheetah. He runs LIKE a cheetah, but isn't a cheetah.
So also it's like a thousand years but isn't a thousand years.

Sorry for not responding earlier btw, we had a block party.

Exactly 'like', I've already had at that. All I'm saying is it's not 7 days, as you portrayed it to be.

I'm not portraying it as 7 days, God is. He said He made it in 7 days, so why should we not believe Him? Don't you agree He is all powerful? Why couldn't He do something like this in that time? He could have done it in less, but He wanted to show that we work 6 days then rest on the 7th.

 

[Danger Close]

Got rid of our old quotes so we don't take up a page each .

The wording of the King James messes up the meaning a bit.
NIV/NASB(I just took these 2 since it's what I normally use): With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.

The emphasis is on the LIKE. It's not saying a day IS a thousand years, but instead that it's LIKE a thousand years.
It's a similie. Example: He runs like a cheetah. He runs LIKE a cheetah, but isn't a cheetah.
So also it's like a thousand years but isn't a thousand years.

Sorry for not responding earlier btw, we had a block party.

Exactly 'like', I've already had at that. All I'm saying is it's not 7 days, as you portrayed it to be.

I'm not portraying it as 7 days, God is. He said He made it in 7 days, so why should we not believe Him? Don't you agree He is all powerful? Why couldn't He do something like this in that time? He could have done it in less, but He wanted to show that we work 6 days then rest on the 7th.

God is? Who wrote the book? Man wrote it.

 

[Danger Close]

May peace and blessings be upon you people, I am a muslim.

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I'm not portraying it as 7 days, God is. He said He made it in 7 days, so why should we not believe Him? Don't you agree He is all powerful? Why couldn't He do something like this in that time? He could have done it in less, but He wanted to show that we work 6 days then rest on the 7th.

God is? Who wrote the book? Man wrote it.

I do not know about the Christian bible, but the Quran tells of many things that have been recently discovered. For example, w
e now know that the process of fertilization in the mother's womb. A famous biologist, Kenny Moore (I believe even admitted to this).

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Yea, Muhammad also believed in covering your spoons at night, to.

 

[Danger Close]

May peace and blessings be upon you people, I am a muslim.

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I do not know about the Christian bible, but the Quran tells of many things that have been recently discovered. For example, w
e now know that the process of fertilization in the mother's womb. A famous biologist, Kenny Moore (I believe even admitted to this).

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Yea, Muhammad also believed in covering your spoons at night, to.

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What? Are you talking about chastity?

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No.

Like, superstitions he said, another where you have to spit on your right side after waking up.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

Exactly 'like', I've already had at that. All I'm saying is it's not 7 days, as you portrayed it to be.

I'm not portraying it as 7 days, God is. He said He made it in 7 days, so why should we not believe Him? Don't you agree He is all powerful? Why couldn't He do something like this in that time? He could have done it in less, but He wanted to show that we work 6 days then rest on the 7th.

God is? Who wrote the book? Man wrote it.

Man wrote the book but it was God's inspired word, so through man God wrote the Bible. The Lord told man what he should write. Over 2k times it says "Thus says the Lord". That's because the Lord speaks to us through it.

On the Quran, it also says that once a nation is mainly inhabited by Muslims, they should force their religion and kill any who don't believe. Husbands are allowed to beat their wives into submission etc.

 

[Danger Close]

Man wrote the book but it was God's inspired word, so through man God wrote the Bible. The Lord told man what he should write. Over 2k times it says "Thus says the Lord". That's because the Lord speaks to us through it.

Through the Holy Spirit, men wrote the Bible. But you're also forgetting that there are probably missing books. Rome was the one to put the Bible together and they were the ones who agreed/disagreed on what to put in.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

Man wrote the book but it was God's inspired word, so through man God wrote the Bible. The Lord told man what he should write. Over 2k times it says "Thus says the Lord". That's because the Lord speaks to us through it.

Through the Holy Spirit, men wrote the Bible. But you're also forgetting that there are probably missing books. Rome was the one to put the Bible together and they were the ones who agreed/disagreed on what to put in.

God's in control of all, so I doubt He would lead us astray and not let us find all the books He thinks are neccesary to start to understand Him. God would have been with those in Rome who decided what books to put in. Kind of how in the Old Testament they would cast lots to decide, someone would put a certain amount of stones in a bag, all the stones were different, perphaps they were marked or something. They would take out a stone and whatever it was would decide what they did. God would let them choose the stone he wanted, so God would do with choosing the books of the Bible.

 

[Maxie]

Guys, this wasn't meant to turn out to a big debate, you can handle it trough PMing, right?

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

Guys, this wasn't meant to turn out to a big debate, you can handle it trough PMing, right?

It's kind of a fun debate, and we're sharing what our belief so I think it's on topic . I not hating on Danger Close btw, I respect him.

 

[Danger Close]

Man wrote the book but it was God's inspired word, so through man God wrote the Bible. The Lord told man what he should write. Over 2k times it says "Thus says the Lord". That's because the Lord speaks to us through it.

Through the Holy Spirit, men wrote the Bible. But you're also forgetting that there are probably missing books. Rome was the one to put the Bible together and they were the ones who agreed/disagreed on what to put in.

God's in control of all, so I doubt He would lead us astray and not let us find all the books He thinks are neccesary to start to understand Him. God would have been with those in Rome who decided what books to put in. Kind of how in the Old Testament they would cast lots to decide, someone would put a certain amount of stones in a bag, all the stones were different, perphaps they were marked or something. They would take out a stone and whatever it was would decide what they did. God would let them choose the stone he wanted, so God would do with choosing the books of the Bible.

You're more fundamental than my grandmother.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

Through the Holy Spirit, men wrote the Bible. But you're also forgetting that there are probably missing books. Rome was the one to put the Bible together and they were the ones who agreed/disagreed on what to put in.

God's in control of all, so I doubt He would lead us astray and not let us find all the books He thinks are neccesary to start to understand Him. God would have been with those in Rome who decided what books to put in. Kind of how in the Old Testament they would cast lots to decide, someone would put a certain amount of stones in a bag, all the stones were different, perphaps they were marked or something. They would take out a stone and whatever it was would decide what they did. God would let them choose the stone he wanted, so God would do with choosing the books of the Bible.

You're more fundamentalist than my grandmother.

Honestly I don't know what fundamentalist means lol. So I googled it and got fundamentalism. I skimmed it and found this as part of it:

The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles.

If that's what you're saying of me, then yes I believe all that.

 

[Danger Close]

God's in control of all, so I doubt He would lead us astray and not let us find all the books He thinks are neccesary to start to understand Him. God would have been with those in Rome who decided what books to put in. Kind of how in the Old Testament they would cast lots to decide, someone would put a certain amount of stones in a bag, all the stones were different, perphaps they were marked or something. They would take out a stone and whatever it was would decide what they did. God would let them choose the stone he wanted, so God would do with choosing the books of the Bible.

You're more fundamentalist than my grandmother.

Honestly I don't know what fundamentalist means lol. So I googled it and got fundamentalism. I skimmed it and found this as part of it:

The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles.

If that's what you're saying of me, then yes I believe all that.

No, it's more of.."I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE WITH OR WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC FACT."

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

You're more fundamentalist than my grandmother.

Honestly I don't know what fundamentalist means lol. So I googled it and got fundamentalism. I skimmed it and found this as part of it:

The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles.

If that's what you're saying of me, then yes I believe all that.

No, it's more of.."I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE WITH OR WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC FACT."

Well ya I do. What theory can use science to show how the world was made? Either 2 random particles hit and did the opposite of common physics or a God who loves you created you and is still watching over you.

 

[Danger Close]

Honestly I don't know what fundamentalist means lol. So I googled it and got fundamentalism. I skimmed it and found this as part of it:

The inspiration of the Bible by the Holy Spirit and the inerrancy of Scripture as a result of this.
The virgin birth of Christ.
The belief that Christ's death was the atonement for sin.
The bodily resurrection of Christ.
The historical reality of Christ's miracles.

If that's what you're saying of me, then yes I believe all that.

No, it's more of.."I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE WITH OR WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC FACT."

Well ya I do. What theory can use science to show how the world was made? Either 2 random particles hit and did the opposite of common physics or a God who loves you created you and is still watching over you.

I don't really believe it happened all like that.

 

[Cubs_mybb_import12687]

No, it's more of.."I BELIEVE EVERYTHING IN THE BIBLE WITH OR WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC FACT."

Well ya I do. What theory can use science to show how the world was made? Either 2 random particles hit and did the opposite of common physics or a God who loves you created you and is still watching over you.

I don't really believe it happened all like that.

K well tell me what you believe using science then.

Also, do you accept the Heidelberg catechism?