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Remember when there was more than 200k people playing halo 3? Where you start it up and right away you got taken into a game? Those were the best days. When halo3 was still live. Now it's striving for 10k.
 
Definitely. It kind of depresses me when I hop on Halo 4 and theres so few people online. Sometimes I think there is more people on Halo 3 then there is 4.
 
This makes me sad lol, but damn those were the days... but at least it's still possible to play it nowadays.
 
Of course we remember, but for a game that came out 6 years ago, that's pretty good that it's pushing 10k. That's how you know Halo 3 was something else.
 
Kind of how I feel towards gears, which in my opinion is the funnest competitive game, that requires the most skill. referring to gears 1-3 not judgement.
 
Who remembers Halo 2 Super bouncing and getting out of the maps ! Best times ever.
 
You have no idea how much I miss Halo 3.
I literally played that game until it died, and now it barely has anyone playing.
I remember it, and it saddens me.
 
Shift said:
Halo reach was my first game ever for xbox and i loved it <3
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Halo: Reach was a terrible game, and a disgrace to Halo.
 
I disagree, they tried something knew and yes, it might have been a downgrade because of that, but also because after halo 3, we were expecting something better but that couldn't be topped
 
Cann!bal said:
That's quite debatable. Reach was magnificent, the multiplayer matchmaking was fun, yet competitive. What's your reasoning for thinking otherwise?
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It was just a completely different game, with a much different feel than the previous games. It also caused many people to essentially quit Halo, me being one of those people, as well as a lot of my friends.

I feel like they tried to change too many things, with the bloom, different guns, the general feel of the game, ect. They also tried to make forge something different, but they ended up ruining the significance of the great maps and the builders behind them.

It also took away from the competitive feel of everything, not only by taking out the ranks, but by the playlists, and it was even taken out of the MLG circuit, and made its own ALG. (Bet you haven't heard of that).

There's many more reasons to why I feel this way, as well as a lot of other people. But for the most part I think it was just too big of a change that ended the greatness of Halo.
 
Amp said:
It was just a completely different game, with a much different feel than the previous games. It also caused many people to essentially quit Halo, me being one of those people, as well as a lot of my friends.

I feel like they tried to change too many things, with the bloom, different guns, the general feel of the game, ect. They also tried to make forge something different, but they ended up ruining the significance of the great maps and the builders behind them.

It also took away from the competitive feel of everything, not only by taking out the ranks, but by the playlists, and it was even taken out of the MLG circuit, and made its own ALG. (Bet you haven't heard of that).

There's many more reasons to why I feel this way, as well as a lot of other people. But for the most part I think it was just too big of a change that ended the greatness of Halo.
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I disagree, it was not an entire different game. Obviously it was going to different with all the changes, but the changes were a success. It seems like you and your friends barely even gave Reach a chance.

Practically all changes that Bungie made for Halo: Reach was a success However, I can agree with you that the ranking system was awful, but the point of it was to make it a noob friendly ranking system. The guns of Halo: Reach were also a success, what guns are you referring to? There were no bloom and TU playlists if you didn't like bloom. I loved the general feel of the gamer personally. Halo: Reach forge was absolutely awesome, I seriously can''t believe that you said that. They didn't ruin anything relating to forge.

I highly disagree that it took away from the competitive feel. Pretty blatant you have never played any top 10% arena onyx matches or any intense matches MLG playlist games or customs. Halo was dropped from the MLG circuit simply because of historical attendance numbers, not because it was uncompetitive. I actually have heard of AGL: Arena Gaming League.

Well, please do elaborate then. Halo: Reach's changes did not end Halo's greatness, really silly of you to say that.
 
Cann!bal said:
I disagree, it was not an entire different game. Obviously it was going to different with all the changes, but the changes were a success. It seems like you and your friends barely even gave Reach a chance.

Practically all changes that Bungie made for Halo: Reach was a success However, I can agree with you that the ranking system was awful, but the point of it was to make it a noob friendly ranking system. The guns of Halo: Reach were also a success, what guns are you referring to? There were no bloom and TU playlists if you didn't like bloom. I loved the general feel of the gamer personally. Halo: Reach forge was absolutely awesome, I seriously can''t believe that you said that. They didn't ruin anything relating to forge.

I highly disagree that it took away from the competitive feel. Pretty blatant you have never played any top 10% arena onyx matches or any intense matches MLG playlist games or customs. Halo was dropped from the MLG circuit simply because of historical attendance numbers, not because it was uncompetitive. I actually have heard of AGL: Arena Gaming League.

Well, please do elaborate then. Halo: Reach's changes did not end Halo's greatness, really silly of you to say that.
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To be honest it all depends on the person. I have heard a lot of things from both sides of the story.

The guns like the DMR, Sniper, Carbine, Beam Rifle were all changed. Made the game play different, also, they took out power ups and added the stupid classes. Power ups brought map knowledge and timing, and without them there was really nothing that replaced that part of the game.

Also the Bloom made a lot of people disregard from the game, you may not of noticed it, but a lot of people did. With the play of the game, and the stupid playlists they added. I found myself forcing myself to play the game to find enjoyment out of it, and after awhile, I just ended up playing Infection as that was the only thing that kept me somewhat interested.

Forge, was good. But they ruined it in a way. They tried to make it what it was before, but it was almost too much. With Halo 3, you could be playing a map that was simply amazing, but that exact map wouldn't be the same in Halo: Reach. Simply because it was too easy to do everything, it made all the maps essentially have less of the significance they had in Halo: 3. Sure there were some fun ones, how could there not be. But it just wasn't the same. Almost same thing goes for the entire game.

Let's break it all down:

Removed Halo background, no BR/Carbine, different vehicles, again, Forge.
They didn't really have the fun things Halo had before, at least it was different, 2XP weekend, Play with Bungie, favorites.
Snipers weren't the same, it was way easy to snipe someone in Halo: Reach.
The playlists were boring, especially without the old ranking system.
Spartans vs. Elites was annoying.
Bloom took away from the Halo feel.
Load-outs: Took away from spawn knowledge, power ups, map knowledge, ect.
Competitive wasn't the same way as before. Everything was played differently.
Forge was less fun, even though you essentially had more to do. Sounds weird.
Custom games, they were different, less fun.

I feel like this is very cluttered, but maybe you see my point.
 
Amp said:
The guns like the DMR, Sniper, Carbine, Beam Rifle were all changed. Made the game play different, also, they took out power ups and added the stupid classes. Power ups brought map knowledge and timing, and without them there was really nothing that replaced that part of the game.
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The DMR was never in Halo 3, therefore, it was never changed. Quite blatant that made the gameplay different, but that doesn't lower the significance of the game. Power ups could still be timed in the MLG playlist. Load outs replaced them perfectly.

Amp said:
Also the Bloom made a lot of people disregard from the game, you may not of noticed it, but a lot of people did. With the play of the game, and the stupid playlists they added. I found myself forcing myself to play the game to find enjoyment out of it, and after awhile, I just ended up playing Infection as that was the only thing that kept me somewhat interested.
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I did recognize people disliked it, I played Reach every single day. I have over 70 days worth on playtime on it, probably more, and a tenth of it was spent whilst listening to my friends whining about missing a shot because of bloom. Infection is an awful and uncompetitive playlist, you're just subjecting yourself to becoming a disliker of Reach if you're solely playing that.

Amp said:
Forge, was good. But they ruined it in a way. They tried to make it what it was before, but it was almost too much. With Halo 3, you could be playing a map that was simply amazing, but that exact map wouldn't be the same in Halo: Reach. Simply because it was too easy to do everything, it made all the maps essentially have less of the significance they had in Halo: 3. Sure there were some fun ones, how could there not be. But it just wasn't the same. Almost same thing goes for the entire game.
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That's absolute malarkey. They're remakes, replicas, not the same thing, and not on the same game. Of course they're not going to feel the same, but in no way does that downgrade the overall significance of the maps or more importantly the game.

Amp said:
Let's break it all down:

Removed Halo background, no BR/Carbine, different vehicles, again, Forge.
They didn't really have the fun things Halo had before, at least it was different, 2XP weekend, Play with Bungie, favorites.
Snipers weren't the same, it was way easy to snipe someone in Halo: Reach.
The playlists were boring, especially without the old ranking system.
Spartans vs. Elites was annoying.
Bloom took away from the Halo feel.
Load-outs: Took away from spawn knowledge, power ups, map knowledge, ect.
Competitive wasn't the same way as before. Everything was played differently.
Forge was less fun, even though you essentially had more to do. Sounds weird.
Custom games, they were different, less fun.

I feel like this is very cluttered, but maybe you see my point.
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Halo: Reach was never suppose to be a remake of Halo 3. Plus, you're completely ignoring every success of Halo: Reach.

Stop talking about the past, innovation and change keep video games running. If they were to have never change anything the Halo franchise would have never made it this far. Video games characteristics are subject to change and just because the sequel to a video game franchise doesn't feature an attribute you enjoyed, does not mean, therefore, this game 'is a terrible game, and a disgrace.'
 
Cann!bal said:
The DMR was never in Halo 3, therefore, it was never changed. Quite blatant that made the gameplay different, but that doesn't lower the significance of the game. Power ups could still be timed in the MLG playlist. Load outs replaced them perfectly.


I did recognize people disliked it, I played Reach every single day. I have over 70 days worth on playtime on it, probably more, and a tenth of it was spent whilst listening to my friends whining about missing a shot because of bloom. Infection is an awful and uncompetitive playlist.


That's absolute malarkey. They're remakes, replicas, not the same thing, and not on the same game. Of course they're not going to feel the same, but in no way does that downgrade the overall significance of the maps or more importantly the game.


Halo: Reach was never suppose to be a remake of Halo 3. Plus, you're completely ignoring every success of Halo: Reach.

Stop talking about the past, innovation and change keep video games running. If they were to have never change anything the Halo franchise would have never made it this far. Video games characteristics are subject to change and just because the sequel to a video game franchise doesn't feature an attribute you enjoyed, does not mean, therefore, this game 'is a terrible game, and a disgrace.'
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You have a good point, of course the game was a success. And I know it wasn't supposed to be another Halo 3, and it definitely wasn't. Besides, anything I said was mostly opinionated, keep that in mind.

Bottom line, the game had its flaws, like any other game out there. It just wasn't the Halo I wanted it to be.
 
It's quite depressing to be honest, I wish we can go back to those legendary days.
 
FeaR said:
Who remembers Halo 2 Super bouncing and getting out of the maps ! Best times ever.
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Oh my god I miss halo 2 so much. You can actually play H2 online still, but it's a process. If you wanna know man I'll tell you
 
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