Are Gays Born Being Gay[Updated]

[Cann!bal]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

If you seriously think only transgenders take hormone pills you are delusional dude.

No I do not think homosexuality is wrong.. I know it's wrong for an absolute fact. As that is how I was taught, and raised like every other straight american with a stable household, and a proper education. Do I give a fuck if you or anyone else is homosexual though? Fuck no... Do your thing, don't push it on me though as I already said. Anyone straight or even gay for that matter with any bit of respect would have absolutely no problem with that or even be slightly offended.


@Jason never said anything about any "gay-gene" someone else made up that theory.

Blatantly, however, gays and lesbians aren't stereotyped to be feminine and masculine because of hormone pills. It's uncommon.

"I know it's wrong for an absolute fact."

*Sigh* Please demonstrate to me homosexuality is wrong. You also avoided answering whether homosexuality is bad or not.

It's a double standard for heterosexuals to withhold the right to impose their sexuality, however, not homosexuals. It's intolerant of you to say otherwise.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

*Sigh* Please demonstrate to me homosexuality is wrong. You also avoided answering whether homosexuality is bad or not.

It does not offer the stability of a traditional family (it denies a child either a father or a mother), homosexual relationships are dangerously unhealthy, homosexuality is anti-procreation, and lastly, homosexuality is not genetic it is a choice determined by you and you only.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Right. But he's basically contradicting himself by saying some people are born gay and some get to choose. It's really either one or the other.

I believe you have the ability to choose what sex you are attracted to because at any point I can say "Oh, shit, I like males now.". Where as if I was born with a 'gene' or whatever you may call it, I would not be able to.

That is exactly what the fuck I am talking about... You nailed it right on the spot.

Blatantly, however, gays and lesbians aren't stereotyped to be feminine and masculine because of hormone pills. It's uncommon.

"I know it's wrong for an absolute fact."

*Sigh* Please demonstrate to me homosexuality is wrong. You also avoided answering whether homosexuality is bad or not.

It's a double standard for heterosexuals to withhold the right to impose their sexuality, however, not homosexuals. It's intolerant of you to say otherwise.

You must be basing your response strictly off opinion if you did some research you would soon after realize its more common than you think.

So I do not have to repeat myself scroll back couple pages, and feel free to quote me on those replies.

I also said yes they are treated differently without a doubt, however clearly things are changing and these federal judges are overruling our state bans and pushing gay rights.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I also said yes they are treated differently without a doubt, however clearly things are changing and these federal judges are overruling our state bans and pushing gay rights.

Which is a good thing, because there is nothing intolerable or wrong about homosexuality.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Which is a good thing, because there is nothing intolerable or wrong about homosexuality.

Did I ever once say it wasn't fuck no? But it's not acceptable for one human to make a decision for an entire state. I am pretty sure we use a voting system for a reason, rigged or not.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Did I ever once say it wasn't fuck no? But it's not acceptable for one piece of shit to make a decision for an entire state. I am pretty sure we use a voting system for a reason, rigged or not.

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, so why should you be up in arms if they are pushing gay rights? There is no reason to be upset about a government decision that does not affect you or any other heterosexuals in any way.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

There is nothing wrong with homosexuality, so why should you be up in arms if they are pushing gay rights? There is no reason to be upset about a government decision that does not affect you or any other heterosexuals in any way.

Up in arms? I already said I don't really care but obviously you haven't been reading my posts to their full extent. :/

 

[Cann!bal]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

It does not offer the stability of a traditional family (it denies a child either a father or a mother), homosexual relationships are dangerously unhealthy, homosexuality is anti-procreation, and lastly, homosexuality is not genetic it is a choice determined by you and you only.

1. Children raised by one mother alone or one father alone grow up fine. I fail to see how it'll collapse with two mothers or two fathers.

2. So can heterosexual relationships. There are more sexually transmitted diseases that can be transmitted heterosexually than homosexually.

3. This is a pro if anything. We're highly overpopulated and this is a grand solution for orphans.

4. It's been proven otherwise and regardless if it is or isn't, it doesn't assert homosexuality as wrong.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Which is a good thing, because there is nothing intolerable or wrong about homosexuality.

Respond to these:

It does not offer the stability of a traditional family (it denies a child either a father or a mother).
Homosexual relationships are dangerously unhealthy.
Homosexuality is anti-procreation.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Up in arms? I already said I don't really care but obviously you haven't been reading my posts to their full extent.

The decisions of the American government are not the concern here. You do not have to take my words literally, but the way you called the person responsible a 'shit head' made me think you were passionate about your argument and really did care (which you now claim not to).

I'm curious Philly, how do you "know for an absolute fact" that homosexuality is wrong? Reading your past replies (to their full extent) I have not found any evidence to prove your argument.

@Prepare none of those statements are grounds to label homosexuality as wrong, nor are any of them true to say that they are wrong.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

1. Children raised by one mother alone or one father alone grow up fine. I fail to see how it'll collapse with two mothers or two fathers.

2. So can heterosexual relationships. There are more sexually transmitted diseases that can be transmitted heterosexually than homosexually.

3. This is a pro if anything. We're highly overpopulated and this is a grand solution for orphans.

4. It's been proven otherwise and regardless if it is or isn't, it doesn't assert homosexuality as wrong.

1. It differs from person to person. To be exact, these children will be growing up with two mothers or fathers. I've had a friend who had two mothers and said he wished he knew and lived with his father and wished for a normal life. It all depends on the person.

2. It's not nessisarily the amount of diseases. It's the risk factor. Homosexuals are proven to be at higher risk of an STD than heterosexuals.

3. We are not highly overpopulated if we are at all. Even if we were, is allowing homosexuals to essentially contribute to erasing a small percent of the world's population?

4. Tell me how is it in any way gentic? You're telling me that right now, you cannot make the choice to be homosexual on your own if you wanted to? I can make choices on my own. If I want to be homosexual tomorrow I can do so. I'm not genetically programmed to be attracted to females as I can change that at virtually any given moment.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

1. It differs from person to person. To be exact, these children will be growing up with two mothers or fathers. I've had a friend who had two mothers and said he wished he knew and lived with his father and wished for a normal life. It all depends on the person.

2. It's not nessisarily the amount of diseases. It's the risk factor. Homosexuals are proven to be at higher risk of an STD than heterosexuals.

3. We are not highly overpopulated if we are at all. Even if we were, is allowing homosexuals to essentially contribute to erasing a small percent of the world's population?

4. Tell me how is it in any way gentic? You're telling me that right now, you cannot make the choice to be homosexual on your own if you wanted to? I can make choices on my own. If I want to be homosexual tomorrow I can do so. I'm not genetically programmed to be attracted to females as I can change that at virtually any given moment.

So these are your supportive statements to claim that homosexuality is wrong?

1. Considering that it is situational, it is not grounds to call it wrong. There are as many children that grow up happily with homosexual parents as there are children that grow up unhappy - the main reason for that being the social stigma on homosexuality thanks to people like yourself.

2. Even if it's true (by the smallest margins) that homosexual partners are at higher risk of contracting an STI than a heterosexual partners, it is not relevant to label homosexuality as wrong, furthermore, it is their own responsibility to be careful when having intercourse, no matter what their sexuality.

3. We are most certainly overly populated, and if cannot see that, then I would assume that you are quite literally delusional.
I also find it amusing that you refer to homosexuality as a concept of inevitable death. Are you assuming that all homosexuals are to contract HIV and die? I have no words for that sort of dim witted logic.

4. I don't see this as any valid argument that homosexuality is wrong, and will disregard it. As Jason said, some are born gay, while others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

4. I don't see this as any valid argument that homosexuality is wrong, and will disregard it. As Jason said, some are born gay, while others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.

I don't see how you can call my logic dim witted and proceed to post this. You are contradicting yourself. You can't tell me that "yes, people are born homosexuals." and carry on to say that others have the option. That's illogical to say the least. It's either people are born homosexual, or they have the choice to be. You simply cannot have the best of both worlds. By you telling me "others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.", you're telling me someone is choosing which sex he/she wants to be attracted to for a day, a month, a year, a lifetime, however long it may be. Are you not? This whole debate thread is on if gays are born gay or have the choice to be gay. Quite frankly, I fail to see how this is even a question.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I don't see how you can call my logic dim witted and proceed to post this. You are contradicting yourself. You can't tell me that "yes, people are born homosexuals." and carry on to say that others have the option. That's illogical to say the least. It's either people are born homosexual, or they have the choice to be. You simply cannot have the best of both worlds. By you telling me "others transition temporarily or permanently from straight to homosexual through sensual experiences, fantasies, or simply strong curiosities with or about the same gender.", you're telling me someone is choosing which sex he/she wants to be attracted to for a day, a month, a year, a lifetime, however long it may be. Are you not? This whole debate thread is on if gays are born gay or have the choice to be gay. Quite frankly, I fail to see how this is even a question.

What I meant by being 'born gay' was knowing your physical attraction to the same sex from a very young age. In other words, you know nothing of being attracted to the opposite sex and only to those of your own. I would agree that yes you do have a choice when it comes to your sexuality, but I'm also saying that some have never experienced being heterosexual, and have remained homosexual from the moment they found their sexual tendencies as a pre teen, referring to them being 'born gay'. I am in no way contradicting myself.

 

[Prepare]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

What I meant by being 'born gay' was knowing your physical attraction to the same sex from a very young age. In other words, you know nothing of being attracted to the opposite sex and only to those of your own. I would agree that yes you do have a choice when it comes to your sexuality, but I'm also saying that some have never experienced being heterosexual, and have remained homosexual from the moment they found their sexual tendencies as a pre teen, referring to them being 'born gay'. I am in no way contradicting myself.

This thread is all over the place. I was arguing for the thought of literally being born a homosexual due to a 'gene' dubbed the 'gay gene'. At a young age, yes, you don't know any better if you're homosexual or heterosexual. But as one gets older and develops his/her train of thought, you essentially have complete control over your sexual attractions. My arguments were going against one coming out of a womb gay due to said 'gay gene', with basically no say in it at any point in his/her life.

 

[Philly]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

3. This is a pro if anything. We're highly overpopulated and this is a grand solution for orphans.

I am sorry but Asia is highly overpopulated, and those people are not unintelligent enough to encourage homosexuality to help their problem... Even remotely considering overpopulation being a pro for being gay is so ignorant, I am HONESTLY speechless. I cannot even believe someone, let alone you would even say such an ignorant remark.

To be completely honest I highly doubt I will read anymore replies after this comment, let alone make any responses... I have said my opinions, and facts.

@Philly is out of this elementary level thread.

 

[Radical]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

1.Why do you guys keep trying to change the subject about @"phiily"'s opinion.

2.Also @jason probably had the best response in this thread

3. Homosexuality isn't going to stop an over population, because there isn't really enough. Also, I am pretty sure more people are born each day then people who die.

 

[Astro]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

Why do you guys keep trying to change the subject about @"phiily"'s opinion.

We are doing no such thing. He states that things are fact, when they are not at all.

 

[Nevermind]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

1.Why do you guys keep trying to change the subject about @"phiily"'s opinion.

That's all it is, an opinion. He says he knows it for a fact, when there is absolutely no evidence to back up his claim.

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Right. But he's basically contradicting himself by saying some people are born gay and some get to choose. It's really either one or the other.

I believe you have the ability to choose what sex you are attracted to because at any point I can say "Oh, shit, I like males now.". Where as if I was born with a 'gene' or whatever you may call it, I would not be able to.

He's not though. You seem to think that there is this black and white principle that governs all of morality and science, which is untrue. Genetics and epigenetics are proven to be some of the main factors when it comes to homosexuality, and I have already linked 5 or so sources that say the same thing. Environmental factors can lead to changes in the body, mind, and DNA. This is where homosexuality comes from. Now, you can choose to have sex with anyone you want, but that doesn't mean you will be able to choose to be attracted to them.

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I am sorry but Asia is highly overpopulated, and those people are not unintelligent enough to encourage homosexuality to help their problem... Even remotely considering overpopulation being a pro for being gay is so ignorant, I am HONESTLY speechless. I cannot even believe someone, let alone you would even say such an ignorant remark.

To be completely honest I highly doubt I will read anymore replies after this comment, let alone make any responses... I have said my opinions, and facts.

@Philly is out of this elementary level thread.

Decrease in population is a bi-product of homosexuality, and that is a good thing. I don't see how you can deny that.

You have not stated a single fact. You merely stated superstition and opinion about what you think about homosexuality.

 

[Pacino]

RE: Are Gays Born Being Gay

I personally class gays in 3 categories:
1-Born this way
2-Problems in life led to this
3-Gay because its the new fashion

I respect the first two a lot but seriously hate the third one.

1-It could be genetical (hidden gene in father and mother or parents could be gay and lesbo but got married to hide that)
2-A bunch of gay pedophiles fucked him while young or a missing parent (it doesn't apply for everyone) or maybe problems with women.
3 -Wow, everyone is suporting gays... I'll become gay! Fuck these people, at least there are not a lot.