12/31/11 Last day of freedom

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NDAA is now law.

Obama passed the foundation of oppression and dictatorship.

inb4everyonebuysguns
 
I heard it wasn't suppose to effect the U.S, thats BS.
 
sorrow said:
I heard it wasn't suppose to effect the U.S, thats BS.
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Not effect the US? IT WAS MADE FOR THE US.

Honestly I'm happy I'm 18, I'm purchasing another shotgun and my savings on ammo.

They already openly breached the 6th, 5th and 4th amendments of the constitution they "oathed" to maintain hours into the 2012 year, how long before our 2nd and 1st amendments get stripped from us.

eXero said:
Explain? I'm behind. I don't have a clue what you are talking about.
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NDAA = Law that just got passed the allows indefinite detention and execution of anyone deemed a (in exact words) "a terrorist" without trial this is a "worldwide" law, the US can now pick you up anywhere under the cover of night or early morning and kill you for "assumptions of terrorism"
 
So it's an extreme version of the Patriot Act, which is also stupid.

Great...
 
10 (d) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this section is in
11 tended to limit or expand the authority of the President
12 or the scope of the Authorization for Use of Military
13 Force.
14 (e) AUTHORITIES.—Nothing in this section shall be
15 construed to affect existing law or authorities relating to
16 the detention of United States citizens, lawful resident
17 aliens of the United States, or any other persons who are
18 captured or arrested in the United States.
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http://www.lawfareblog.com/wp-content/up...ection.pdf
 
It was changed before being passed read my last post
 
No, the foundation of oppression and dictatorship was the Patriot Act.
 
Umm why is this law even bad? if your a you associate with terrorists or any sort then fuck ya its your own fault.
 
Famous™ said:
Umm why is this law even bad? if your a you associate with terrorists or any sort then F*ck ya its your own fault.
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You're asking how giving unlimited power to a greedy government could be bad.

kk
 
Derik said:
You're asking how giving unlimited power to a greedy government could be bad.

kk
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How is it greedy if its preventing terrorism? this has nothing to do with the average person.
99% of people won't even knew what this law thing is.
 
Famous™ said:
How is it greedy if its preventing terrorism? this has nothing to do with the average person.
99% of people won't even knew what this law thing is.
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I really can't be bothered arguing about this, you'll just have to take my word on it.

Ask Carbon.
 
Famous™ said:
Umm why is this law even bad? if your a you associate with terrorists or any sort then F*ck ya its your own fault.
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Lets say you give charity to a senator, who 5 years from now is framed and branded a "security threat" according to this law even if you are a born a raised Australian the US goverment can pluck you out of your bed and give you the lethal injection.

Without telling you what you did.
 
My first thought is that this is a good law, but then you can be a "terrorist" for many things other than blowing up buildings and killing people, you can be branded a terrorist for releasing data on why your goverment is corrupt, the hacking group anonymous are terrorists for what they have done, should people like this be killed? im not even going to point out how this can be abused.

I had respect for american but your really retarded letting a black cunt lead one of the most powerfull countrys at least the george bush had people assasinated secretly, in a few years there will be mass graves in new york lol. I bet this law was marketted as "This would of stopped the twin towers disarstar" and all the dumb rednecks voted for it.

Glad my country has no extradition treaty with the us.
 
slack3r said:
My first thought is that this is a good law, but then you can be a "terrorist" for many things other than blowing up buildings and killing people, you can be branded a terrorist for releasing data on why your goverment is corrupt, the hacking group anonymous are terrorists for what they have done, should people like this be killed? im not even going to point out how this can be abused.

I had respect for american but your really retarded letting a black c*nt lead one of the most powerfull countrys at least the george bush had people assasinated secretly, in a few years there will be mass graves in new york lol. I bet this law was marketted as "This would of stopped the twin towers disarstar" and all the dumb rednecks voted for it.

Glad my country has no extradition treaty with the us.
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well most "rednecks" are for smaller government hence the the civil war, but anyways read my post on the first page.
 
Protesting is considered a mild form of "terrorism" even though it is an amendment right.

Yeah, Google that shit.
 
The bill itself isn't evil, it could have good motives. But the fact is the people who uphold it aren't exactly perfect. So basically it will be abused, if they wanted they could track me down right now and kill me. That's a pretty dumb example but it's true. I'm an American citizen but they can simply take me out if they believe im a terrorist.

The problem is, many terrorists are American citizens. The law can protect us with the right people, but it can also be our doom. I think not having the law and simply breaking it when needed would be better. I think that because then the government must use it with more discretion and restraint.

Honestly I can't wait until Obama's gone...
 
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