Tired of seeing shit about groups

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You are about 50% correct in your statement. It's actually pretty hard to get a group off their feet (at the start anyway.) Once you have a strong insight of what you are doing, things should flow more freely. The part you are correct on is the time you put into things, but at the end of the day it's the members in the group. You can set up guidelines, rules and all that jazz but it's only going to work IF the members put out the effort.

Continuing on from the members, most people just want a group to lounge in and wear the cool userbar and name color that comes with it. Not many actually want to contribute with tutorials and guides, etc. You either have an active lounge group or you have a group with maybe a handful of members that MIGHT do what they are told and fill out what you ask of them. Depending on your end goal, this will vary in the difficulty level of what the current group owner has to do in store to keep charge of his/her group.
Your point is only half right none the less, like I stated above and you came off rather strongly about it. Shit talking groups is rather pointless and extremely rude, being a group owner myself is the reason why I felt is necessary to reply to this thread to share my opinion.

Conclusion: In the end, you can always buy your own group and show us how it's done. You can sure talk a big game, but it would be nice to see what a real group owner is suppose to do.
 
It would be pointless to argue because it's just a topic neither of us will ever agree on. You say it that way and can stay on your point. I see it as a leaders responsibility to keep things in line, otherwise why would anyone put in effort? But like I said it's pointless to go back and forth on the same topic, to reach the exact same outcome each time.

And if groups don't want to be talked shit about then I guess they should just do a better job of being prestige or worth something. The one thing every single person is entitled to is speech, mine just hurts where it's true. And I have no need for a group nor am I on enough to put in the effort needed.
To you it all may be 50% and that's cool, as for me it's 100% true. Can leave it at that.
 
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