Zak said:Yeah, I think we should have it. For example, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (I don't include his brother Tamerlan, because he was killed during a gun fight with the police) one of the two Boston bombers should get the death sentence. Killed an innocent little boy and 2 more people. Not to mention the 200+ injured. Now, not in all cases should it be used. If (hypothetically) two people are fist fighting, and one is killed (my teacher told my class and I a story a while back about how some guy she knew was going to jail for killing a guy during a fist fight. He did not intend to kill him, but he punched the guys nose and the cartilage pushed back and hit his brain and killed him, or something along those lines) then they shouldn't get the Death Sentence.
Leader said:That doesn't warrant their murder. An eye for an eye justice system is corrupt and disgusting. Taking another person's life without their consent is immoral no matter what context it takes place in.
You're lowering yourself to the level of immorality in order to attempt to restore some sort of balance, but that's not how it works.
Fighting murder with murder is stupid.
Pandas said:Correct, But think of the side context, You can add on the fist fighting with a meaning, how about if it was just a little UFC fight in your back garden? And it was a legal fight but if the "murder" wasn't meant to be, Should the person be jailed for this? I want to know what your opinion on that is.
Leader said:Are you talking about if someone died in a UFC fight? That would be considered manslaughter, and you would still be jailed.
wash said:@Leader I'm interested in hearing your opinions on mentally ill criminals who have been convicted of massacres. Wouldn't you agree that death is the best option for someone this mentally damaged?
Valiant said:Are you a Nazi? Or a Darwinist? Cause that's what they believed in. Obviously if somebody commited a massacre they don't deserve life. I'm actually confused what your point is here @wash
wash said:@Leader I'm interested in hearing your opinions on mentally ill criminals who have been convicted of massacres. Wouldn't you agree that death is the best option for someone this mentally damaged?
Leader said:In what universe is it acceptable to kill people who are mentally ill?
wash said:I'm not referring to someone with mental retardation, rather someone who is mentally gone in a sense, who ruthlessly kills innocent people. What's the point in imprisoning someone like this? We clearly don't understand mental illness enough in our society to be able to help people who are this "gone" mentally.
wash said:I'm not referring to someone with mental retardation, rather someone who is mentally gone in a sense, who ruthlessly kills innocent people. What's the point in imprisoning someone like this? We clearly don't understand mental illness enough in our society to be able to help people who are this "gone" mentally.
Bull said:I believe if you take a life, Yours should be taken also. Ofcourse there should be limits such as if somone dies in a car crash while they're sober than they shouldn't get the death sentence, But if they're drunk or under the influence in anyway they should be dealt with accordingly.
Cann!bal said:We're suppose to aid and remedy their illness, not give up on them and murder them. You understand how demented that is? Eugenics is a sick ideology.
So leta say it was a little kid that got killed... And they gave the killer the death penalty. There would be no good in it except for the killer being punished.Cann!bal said:"I'm against the death penalty not because I see the good in the hearts of killers, but because I see the killers in the hearts of the good."
Your ideology renders you no worse than the killer for it makes you the killer.
wash said:*debating for sake of debate*
By law, it is legal to execute a criminal as long as they are mentally aware of why they are being executed. You know what else is sick? Having a man rot in a box for an eternity, dazed and confused. Put him out of his misery. However, I don't disagree with what you are saying. We don't understand mental illness enough because it is a very complex issue, and we always look for the simplest answers in life.
Valiant said:@wash
The only way we would kill the mentally insane murderers is if the government ran out of resources, institutions ran out of donations, and the prisons ran out of room. It's just our societies' moral.
To your quote, that is how some countries see it. The max penalty for killing someone is 30 years (ranging just and example). Just wanted to point the out for some reason.Cann!bal said:"I'm against the death penalty not because I see the good in the hearts of killers, but because I see the killers in the hearts of the good."
Your ideology renders you no worse than the killer for it makes you the killer.
Cann!bal said:You're advocating eugenics! Death warrants no hope for them.
Bull said:So leta say it was a little kid that got killed... And they gave the killer the death penalty. There would be no good in it except for the killer being punished.
Loser said:To your quote, that is how some countries see it. The max penalty for killing someone is 30 years (ranging just and example). Just wanted to point the out for some reason.
wash said:no hope? lock them in a box of solitude instead, that should get their hopes up... not at all. these people are completely gone from reality and they are suffering. I wouldn't say that this type of execution is any worse than mercy killing.
@Leader someone who is mentally detached, but aware of their crimes.
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