Are Gays Born Being Gay[Updated]

Philly said:

I will say this with pride, I am highly against homosexuality but I am not going to bully, harass or even state my opinion in most circumstances. With this being said just because I am straight doesn't mean you can make me love just any old haggard chick, that remark was just outrageous.

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Leader said:

Don't try and put words into my mouth. Destiny means "the events that will necessarily happen to a particular person or thing in the future", and the fact that homosexuality is not a choice does not have any relation to the future, but a relation to the past. People may have realized that they aren't the sexuality they thought they were, or the decided to share it with the world.

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What makes your dislike it?

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500 said:

If you weren't admin I think people would start replying with "What is wrong the being gay" and other stuff like that would cause a whole other argument. I am completely fine with your opinion, but the only people I don't like against gays is Westboro Baptist Church.

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Malzahar said:

I don't "dislike" it.. I'm looking at this with reason. So you believe that you are born with it, but sometimes you aren't sure what you like?

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Philly said:

It's not right... If it was there would be JUST males, or JUST females. There would be absolutely not one point in having both.

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Sintation said:

Well my boy dog tried to bang a boy dog and started licking his dick and stuff (not joking) so I think it might be a birth effect. Not in a bad way, just an effect that happens during birth. Either it be gay or straight.

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Leader said:

That was in response to Philly.

I'm saying that their are genetic and epigenetic factors that contribute to homosexuality. I thought I articulated that point quite clear. At no point does the word "choice" enter the equation.

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Malzahar said:

Yeah, I saw that after I replied.

No matter what way I look at this, I can't see you being BORN with being gay or straight. I think it's a decision they you mentally make.

For example, with enough brainwashing, you can make someone who was formerly homosexual, shudder at the thought of conglomerating with another male.

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Malzahar said:

Yeah, I saw that after I replied.

No matter what way I look at this, I can't see you being BORN with being gay or straight. I think it's a decision they you mentally make.

For example, with enough brainwashing, you can make someone who was formerly homosexual, shudder at the thought of conglomerating with another male.

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500 said:

This isn't the 1960's where showing pictures of men naked helps you become straight.

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Malzahar said:

I never said it was. Though, @Leader is trying to argue that you are born with the decision already inserted into your brain.

It might not be easy, but you CAN successfully brainwash someone to be homosexual or vice versa.

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Leader said:

That doesn't speak to the morality of an action. It just merely states the biology of reproduction.

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Leader said:

That doesn't prove or disprove my claim. With enough brainwashing, you can convince anyone of anything. Why do you think religion exists?

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Solar said:

You don't seem to be understanding what I'm saying. I'll make it very black and white for you.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with a female, and I am attracted to this female, I am straight.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with both a male, and I am attracted to this male, I am gay.

If I choose to engage in intercourse with both a man and a woman, and I am attracted to both the man and the woman, then I am bisexual.

Must I make this any clearer?

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Leader said:

Whether or not you can see it, that's the way it is. Biology, genetics, and epigenetics disagree with your claims.

Please provide some evidence for your claims.

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Color said:

We know what sexuality is. Thanks for the tip though, although it's a bit off. You don't have to have sex in order to know what you're attracted to, that's just silly. This isn't even related to the topic. With your logic here, you could have sex with a female, like it, have sex with a guy, like it more, now you're gay. This wouldn't mean you were born to be homosexual, now would it? As you've just stated that having sex with a female and liking it made you straight to begin. Bad example.

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Color said:

We know what sexuality is. Thanks for the tip though, although it's a bit off. You don't have to have sex in order to know what you're attracted to, that's just silly. This isn't even related to the topic. With your logic here, you could have sex with a female, like it, have sex with a guy, like it more, now you're gay. This wouldn't mean you were born to be homosexual, now would it? As you've just stated that having sex with a female and liking it made you straight to begin. Bad example.

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Malzahar said:

That's what I'm saying. You can SUCCESSFULLY make someone want to be homosexual or straight. It's not in your chromosones and it sure as hell isn't in your DNA.

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Malzahar said:

Yeah, I saw that after I replied.

No matter what way I look at this, I can't see you being BORN with being gay or straight. I think it's a decision they you mentally make.

For example, with enough brainwashing, you can make someone who was formerly homosexual, shudder at the thought of conglomerating with another male.

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